Craps Vig Chart

Vigorish (also known as juice, under-juice, the cut, the take, the margin, the house edge or simply the vig) is the fee charged by a bookmaker (or bookie) for accepting a gambler's wager. In American English it can also refer to the interest owed a loanshark in consideration for credit. The term came to English usage via Yiddish slang (Yiddish: וויגריש‎‎, romanized: vigrish),[1] which was itself a loanword from Russian (Russian: вы́игрыш, romanized: výigryš, lit.'gain, winnings').[2]

As a business practice it is an example of risk management; by doing so bookmakers can guarantee turning a profit regardless of the underlying event's outcome. As a rule, bookmakers do not want to have a financial interest creating a preference for one result over another in any given sporting event. This is accomplished by incentivizing their clientele to wager offsetting amounts on all potential outcomes of the event. The normal method by which this is achieved is by adjusting the payouts for each outcome (collectively called the line) as imbalances of total amounts wagered between them occur.

The vig is the upfront payment you must make in exchange for getting mathematically fair payoff odds. Usually, the vig is 5% of your bet, but not all casinos treat the vig in the same way. Check the house rules where you play to see if the vig is rounded up or down for bets not evenly divisible by 20. The difference is a good controlled throw. Along with a good betting method only playing the lowest vig bets and good bankroll control. I have play over 100 session since moving here and my average per hour win is $16.76. There are many different bets you can make on the craps table. This often confuses new players but in actual fact craps is not that complicated. In this section we outline all of the possible betting options and show you where those bets go on the table. The Craps Table. Below is an example of a craps table. Heavy's Axis Power Craps Dice Control Seminar is now available on DVD! This is the breakthrough video that sent the competition back to the drawing board. This was first professionally produced DVD demonstrating the mechanics of a controlled dice shot.

Within the mathematical disciplines of probability and statistics this is analogous to an overround[3], though the two are not precisely synonymous but rather bijectivereciprocals of one another.[4] Overround occurs when the sum of the implied probabilities for all possible event results is above 100%, whereas the vigorish is the bookmaker's percentage profit on the total stakes made on the event. For example, an overround of 20% results in 16.66%[a] vigorish. The connecting formulæ are:

v=o(1+o) and o=v(1v){displaystyle v={frac {o}{(1+o)}}quad {text{ and }}quad o={frac {v}{(1-v)}}}
where
v represents vigorish
o represents overround

Proportionality[edit]

It is simplest to assume that vigorish is factored in proportionally to the true odds, although this need not be the case. Under proportional vigorish, a 'fair odds' betting line of 2.00/2.00[b] without vigorish would decrease the payouts of all outcomes equally, perhaps to 1.95/1.95, once it was added. More commonly though, disproportional vigorish will be applied as part of the efforts to keep the amounts wagered balanced, such as 1.90/2.00, making the outcome with fewer dollars wagered appear more attractive due to the larger payout.

Examples[edit]

The simplest wager[edit]

Two people want to bet on opposing sides of an event and agree to 'fair odds', also known as evens. They are going to make the wager between each other without using the services of a bookmaker. Each person agrees to risk $100 for the chance to win $100. The person who loses receives nothing and the winner receives both stakes. Rather than pay vigorish to someone who will guarantee that the winner will be paid, they both assume the opportunity cost in the event the backer of the losing side refuses to pay the winner at the event's conclusion.

By contrast, when using a sportsbook with the odds set at 1.90/2.00 (10 to 11) with vigorish factored in, each person would have to risk or lay $110 to win $100 (the sportsbook collects $220 'in the pot'). The extra $10 per person is, in effect, a bookmaker's commission for taking the action. This $10 is not in play and cannot be doubled by the winning bettor; it can only be lost. A losing bettor simply loses their $110. A winning bettor wins back their original $110, plus his $100 winnings, for a total of $210. From the $220 collected, the sportsbook keeps the remaining $10 after paying out the winner.

Theory vs. practice[edit]

Vigorish can be defined independent of the outcome of the event and of bettors' behaviors, by defining it as the percentage of total dollars wagered retained by the bookmaker in a risk-free wager. This definition is largely theoretical in practice as it makes the assumption that the bookmaker has balanced the wagers perfectly, such that they make equal profit regardless of the contest result.

For a two outcome event, the vigorish percentage, v is

v=100(1pqp+q){displaystyle v=100left(1-{pq over p+q}right)}

where the p and q are the decimal payouts for each outcome.This should not be confused with the percentage a bettor pays due to vigorish. No consistent definition of the percentage a bettor pays due to vigorish can be made without first defining the bettor's behavior under juiced odds and assuming a win-percentage for the bettor. These factors are discussed under the debate section.

For example, 1.90/2.00 pricing of an even match is 4.55% vigorish, and 1.95/1.95 pricing is 2.38% vigorish.

Vigorish percentage for three-way events may be calculated using the following formula:[5]

v=100(1/p+1/q+1/t)11/p+1/q+1/t{displaystyle v=100{(1/p+1/q+1/t)-1 over 1/p+1/q+1/t}}

where p, q and t are the decimal payouts for each outcome. For comparison, for overround calculation only the upper part of the equation is used, leading to slightly higher percentage results than the vigorish calculation.

Other kinds of vigorish[edit]

Casino games[edit]

More generically, vigorish can refer to the bookmaker/casino's theoretical advantage from all possible wagers on any Baccarat, in the house-banked version of baccarat (also mini-baccarat) commonly played in North American casinos, vigorish refers to the 5% commission (called the cagnotte) charged to players who win a bet on the banker hand. The rules of the game are structured so that the banker hand wins slightly more often than the player hand; the 5% vigorish restores the house advantage to the casino for both bets. In most casinos, a winning banker bet is paid at even money, with a running count of the commission owed kept by special markers in a commission box in front of the dealer. This commission must be paid when all the cards are dealt from the shoe or when the player leaves the game. Some casinos do not keep a running commission amount, and instead withdraw the commission directly from the winnings; a few require the commission to be posted along with the bet, in a separate space on the table.

  • Backgammon, the recube vig is the value of having possession of the doubling cube to the player being offered a double.
  • Craps, vigorish refers to the 5% commission charged on a buy bet, where a player wishes to bet that one of the numbers — 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 or 10 — will be rolled before a 7 is rolled. The commission is charged at the rate of $1 for every $20 bet. The bet is paid off at the true mathematical odds, but the 5% commission is paid as well, restoring the house advantage. For many years, this commission was paid whether the bet won or not. In recent years, many casinos have changed to charging the commission only when the bet wins, which greatly reduces the house advantage; for instance, the house advantage on a buy bet on the 4 or 10 is reduced from 5% to 1.67%, since the bet wins one-third of the time (2:1 odds against). In this case, the vig may be deducted from the winnings (for instance, a $20 bet on the 4 would be paid $39 – $40 at 2:1 odds, less the $1 commission), or the player may simply hand the commission in and receive the full payout. This rule is commonplace in Mississippi casinos, and becoming more widely available in Nevada.
  • Roulette: odds are calculated out of 36 numbers, but the wheel has one or two extra pockets (zero and double zero).
  • Slot machines - the payouts and winning combinations available on most slot machines and other electronic gambling systems are often designed such that an average of between 0.1% to 10% (varying by machine and facility) of funds taken in are not used to pay out winnings, and thus becomes the house's share. Machines or facilities with a particularly low percentage are often said to be loose.
  • Poker
    • In pai gow poker, a 5% commission charged on all winning bets is referred to as vigorish. Unlike baccarat, the commission is paid after each winning bet, either by the player handing in the amount from his stack of chips, or by having the vig deducted from the winnings.
    • In table poker, the vigorish, more commonly called the rake, is a fraction of each bet placed into the pot. The dealer removes the rake from the pot after each bet (or betting round), making change if necessary. The winner of the hand gets the money that remains in the pot after the rake has been removed. Most casinos take 5-10% of the pot, typically capping the total rake at $3 or $4.
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Other uses[edit]

  • In investment banking, 'vig' is sometimes used to describe profits from advisory and other activities.
  • In sports, Pittsburgh Pirates announcer Bob Prince coined the term 'hidden vigorish' to describe an underdog's ability to beat the odds in a given situation.
  • The term is also used in reference to an auction house's buyers and sellers fees.

See also[edit]

Notes[edit]

  1. ^Much of the computation inherent to bookmaking is fractional, but frequently in print the decimal representations are used instead. This makes them easier to input into calculators and more agreeably format within any surrounding text. It is to be understood though that these fractions frequently result in a decimal repetend or infinitely repeating set of numbers somewhere to the right of the decimal point. For the sake of balancing clarity and accuracy, wherever possible this article will use a vinculum when there is a repetend, displaying the digits which infinitely repeat with an overline above them.
  2. ^Betting lines offered as examples below represent the ratio of total payout (stake + winnings) to the original amount risked. In the case of a $1 wager, a fixed-odds betting line of 1.83/2.20 would result in actual winnings of $0.83 and $1.20 for the backers of the respective outcomes, once the original $1 spent to place the wager is subtracted. The amounts and currency used are irrelevant; the calculation is always: a wager of size n offers a total payout of n × the betting line.

References[edit]

  1. ^'Vigorish dictionary definition The American Heritage® Dictionary of the English Language, Fifth Edition'. www.yourdictionary.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  2. ^'Definition of VIGORISH'. www.merriam-webster.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  3. ^Moya, Fabián Enrique (2012-07-24). 'Statistical Methodology for Profitable Sports Gambling'(pdf). www.stat.sfu.ca. p. 15. Archived(PDF) from the original on 2013-06-12. Retrieved 2019-06-02.
  4. ^'A Refresher on Overround and Vig'. Matter of Stats. Retrieved 2019-06-03.
  5. ^'Profit margin calculator Pinnacle'. www.pinnacle.com. Retrieved 2019-06-03.

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What is the 'Best' Progression for You? (Part Two)

Last time I wrote about two betting progressions that very simple to use but still very powerful. This time I will go into more detail on these progressions.

The two progressions mentioned last time are the press-and-pull (or the pull-and-press variant) and the up-a-unit. The press-and-pull progression alternates between pressing the place bet when the number hits and pulling the profits when it hits. The up-a-unit progression adds one unit to the place number each time it hits. In any of these progressions, each number that you place works independently of other numbers. You only take the next step of the progression on the number that hits.

Let’s look at some detailed information for each of these progressions.

First we will look at the numbers for the six and eight with a betting unit size of $10, however, the actual bet on the six and eight must be a multiple of $6.

Unit Size

10

Up a unit

Pull and Press

Press and Pull

Hit #

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

1

12

2

2

12

14

14

12

2

2

2

24

16

18

12

2

16

24

28

30

3

36

30

48

24

28

44

24

4

34

4

48

44

92

24

4

48

48

56

90

5

60

58

150

48

56

104

48

8

98

6

72

72

222

48

8

112

96

112

210

7

84

86

308

96

112

224

96

16

226

8

96

100

408

96

16

240

192

224

450

9

108

114

522

192

224

464

192

32

482

10

120

128

650

192

32

496

384

448

930

11

132

142

792

384

448

944

384

64

994

12

144

156

948

384

64

1008

768

896

1890

13

156

170

1118

768

896

1902

768

126

2018

Craps vig chart calculator

The strategies are arranged from least aggressive to most aggressive. The columns upon which to focus are the 'Total' columns. Notice that for the first few hits the less aggressive strategies outperform the more aggressive strategies. As you rack up more hits, however, the more aggressive your strategy, the better you do.

Now let’s look at the results of these strategies being applied to the four and ten. Using the same $10 betting unit size and assuming you are playing in certain casinos in Tunica or Las Vegas that allow you to buy the four and ten for a $1 vig from $10 to $30, the results are as follows.

Craps Vig Chart Sheet

Unit Size

10

Up a unit

Pull and Press

Press and Pull

Hit #

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

1

10

9

9

10

19

19

10

9

9

2

20

29

38

10

9

28

20

39

48

3

30

49

87

20

39

67

20

19

67

4

40

68

155

20

19

86

40

78

145

5

50

88

243

40

78

164

40

38

183

6

60

107

350

40

38

202

80

156

339

7

70

127

477

80

156

358

80

76

415

8

80

146

623

80

76

434

160

312

727

9

90

166

789

160

312

746

160

152

879

10

100

185

974

160

152

898

320

624

1503

11

110

205

1179

320

624

1522

320

304

1807

12

120

224

1403

320

304

1826

640

1248

3055

13

130

244

1647

640

1248

3074

640

608

3663

Notice in the total columns that the less aggressive strategies still perform better with fewer hits, and even with the reduced house edge of just over 1%, the number of hits before one strategy is favored over another does not change. It still takes eleven hits for the pull-and-press strategy to outperform up-a-unit and it still takes eight hits for press-and-pull to outperform up-a-unit.

Let’s see how the five and nine fare – again a $10 betting unit.

Unit Size

10

Up a unit

Pull and Press

Press and Pull

>Hit #

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

Bet

Win

Total

1

10

4

4

10

14

14

10

4

4

2

20

18

22

10

4

18

20

28

32

3

30

32

54

20

28

46

20

8

40

4

40

46

100

20

8

54

40

56

96

5

50

60

160

40

56

110

40

16

112

6

60

74

234

40

16

126

80

112

224

7

70

88

322

80

112

238

80

32

256

8

80

102

424

80

32

270

160

224

480

9

90

116

540

160

224

494

160

64

544

10

100

130

670

160

64

558

320

448

992

11

110

144

814

320

448

1006

320

128

1120

12

120

158

972

320

128

1134

640

896

2016

13

130

172

1144

640

896

2030

640

256

2272

Even with a 4% house edge, it takes eleven hits for pull-and-press to outperform up-a-unit and eight hits for press-and-pull to outperform up-a-unit.

So what is the moral of this little tour of selected statistics? Simply this – sometimes the simplest can be the most powerful. Comparing the results of the simplest progression to the more common and slightly more complicated schemes proves that except for very uncommon hot streaks, you are able to put more of the casino’s money in your pocket (or give less of your money to the casinos). Ask yourself – how often do I hit one specific number more than eight times in a given roll? Unless you can answer that question with a reasonable amount, the KISS (Keep It Simple Stupid) principle seems to also apply to progression betting in craps.

Next time we will explore some more complex – and aggressive – progression strategies. Until then, remember: if you can't be kind, at least have the decency to be vague.

Stickman


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